As always seems to be the case when anything remotely political is the topic, we see a flood of non-critical thinking. I support the anonymity of the message boards, Bruce, but I still would like to see *some* accountability by, if not IP address, then some geographical label that points to standing. @Quidnam > What evidence of such things could be presented? *All* of it. Everything that is the basis of a credible claim can and should and *would* be presented. As of yet, though, I have not seen any objective evidence that points to fraud occurring, despite the fact that everyone is carrying evidence-gathering devices in their pockets. > If numbers were being changed on the back end of the tabulation systems by someone with root access, or altered in the voting machines themselves by unauthorized code, what evidence of this would we actually see? On what basis are you making the claim if you assert there is no evidence? In the real world, such "access" is based on a mechanism. Network access leaves a trail. Physical access *really* leaves a trail. The onus is on *you* to answer the questions you ask. @Bell9 > … the obvious (non-partisan) question should be: > ” if there was genuine fraud & malfeasance in any Presidential election process — how would that be evident to general observers and the public ?? The same way it has been made evident in other, genuinely fraudulent elections around the world. Go ahead a do a deep dive on that; there are some videos of *hilariously* bad attempts to cover up election tampering. When you're done, come back and let us know what similar evidence you have for claims regarding the US elections. @Winter > If you claim THIS election was “stolen” with no evidence, how about earlier election victories? Baseless claims of fraud could be made against the loser just as easily as the winner. And Republicans did pretty well in the non-Presidential races, so any intellectually honest conspiracy theorist should be asking themselves how that's possible. abe121094322fa0027e6755c63273cfcb5b83ee995d50b777786a08d087d7a23