[quote="linkp, post:14, topic:236090"] While it is entirely off-topic for this forum [/quote] And yet here people are, despite countless historical examples of people and organizations abusing their positions of power and trust, here you are *still* desperately trying to find ways to punch down at the victims of that abuse. I came here looking for technical solutions, not this. > It is in even more bad faith to deliberately conflate the network provider with the attacker. That makes no sense. I have zero transparency to any of the infrastructure managed by the owners of the IP ranges that are the source of hostile traffic. The onus is on these cloud providers (Cloudflare is not unique in this respect) to stop shielding abusive customers if they wish to shift the responsibility elsewhere. > Note that is not a request for proof, as it this is not the proper venue for discussing allegations of abusive traffic from Cloudflare. Their abuse form is the right place for that. Again, no, it is not! There is no "discussion" to be had there, and no expectation that any action will be taken other than burying the incident. Abuse reporting needs to be done in independent, open venues. True, this is probably not the place to discuss it (unless LE wants to talk about reasons to reduce/eliminate their dependence on Cloudflare), but then *you* need to stop rushing to defend them when there *is* ample independent evidence they have big abuse problems. > I get it. Your network, your rules, but if you are going to wholesale block Cloudflare network traffic, you will need to find a new ACME certificate authority. If you don't mind, I'm going to stick around to see if a more reasonable technical solution can be had. 4a3f24ee999fb14e6381240aa3cf8afc83382451a5476fb1d72194706a515709